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What role do you                •   Clinical utility of CTCs and ctDNA remains unproven, but they are useful tools for
                 see for markers or                 the research setting and can be prognostic in some clinical settings, however we
                 circulating tumor cells            still do not understand whether they are biologically useful
                 (CTCs)?                         •   What do CTCs/ctDNA represent? Are they from primary tumors? From
                                                    metastatic tumors? Both?
                                                 •   The source of these cells or ctDNA now in circulation is unknown

                 Can you describe             Endpoints
                 the challenges                  •   New clinical trial designs are needed that address endpoints beyond tumor
                 in designing and                   shrinkage and the RECIST scale; consider time to secondary metastasis or time
                 conducting clinical                to first metastasis in early breast cancer
                 trials for MBC?                 •   Consider how many patients had lesion growth or shrinkage, how many had
                                                    a secondary metastatic site develop; and consider progression-free survival
                                                    studies in early metastatic disease
                                                 •   Quality of life measures need to be a part of all clinical trials


                                              Drugs/experimental therapeutics
                                                 •   Preclinical studies show that several agents can prevent or slow metastasis; need
                                                    to translate these findings into clinical trial design
                                                 •   Current drugs in solid tumors do not work very well; there is too much industry
                                                    influence driving clinical trials, which has trickled down into academia;
                                                    progression-free survival and other endpoints are meaningless if the drugs do
                                                    not significantly extend life span and quality of life

                                                 •   There is duplication in clinical research; for example, too many “me-too” drugs
                                                    are being developed in industry (e.g., PI3K inhibitors)

                                              Recruitment for MBC trials in the US is challenging; patients need easier access
                                              to trial information—should review the steps the United Kingdom took to triple
                                              the number of cancer patients on trials from 4% to 12%

                                                 •   In general, screening is not aimed at early detection of metastasis, largely
                                                    because in the past there were few treatment options; it is worth reconsidering
                                                    this approach

                                                 •   There are too many solo investigators who design, execute, complete and
                                                    publish single-center phase II trials; most likely this is required for promotion of
                                                    clinical investigators; the reward system in academia needs to change to reward
                                                    multicenter, multi-investigator, collaborative phase II trials







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